Obfuscated Addons...
Hello,
A lot of coders are now starting to Obfuscate their addons..
So now it's became Impossible to Customize/Translate any addon that you buy. And even when you buy the Addon, (When the website of the owner is down), The plugin won't works on your server too..
So please, can ScriptFodder Staff do something about this like "Forbid Obfuscation of Addons" ? It's starting to annoy everyone. and i won't be buying script anymore because everytime i buy a script that i like, i found it Obfuscated and impossible to customize or Translate.
Example of Obfuscated Scripts: https://scriptfodder.com/scripts/view/2966/car-stereo https://scriptfodder.com/scripts/view/2907/updated-car-trunk https://scriptfodder.com/scripts/view/2929/raid-on-shops
This script can be backdoored, because you can't even know what's inside.
I will never add an Addon like that in my server... the Owner of the addon can easily put a Backdoor to ban everyone or to give himself adminship.
I remember that CoderHire blocked anyone that was using Obfuscated Addons, so i think that it's will be appreciated if Scriptfodder do the same.
no. this'll just make it easier for skids to leak scripts.
What if the addon contains Backdoors ?
And what if the Author's addon website is Down?
I agree with you. The reason that they are obfuscated is because they don't watch their addon copied. But, authors still shouldn't be allowed to obfuscate their code.
Bytypad1at 9th of September 2016 05:41:30
I agree with you. The reason that they are obfuscated is because they don't watch their addon copied. But, authors still shouldn't be allowed to obfuscate their code.
They're protecting their addon, but who cares, just ban them from protecting their addon ? ok then
Maybe you should message the author and ask for help doing whatever it is you wish to do. (The author of all those scripts is the same person)
Yes but how can i Translate the addon?
How can i change the VGUI/Text Color??
We can't do anything now...
And how can i know if the author didn't added a backdoor on it?
I don't disagree with obfuscating but I disagree with fully obfuscating an addon without.
- Some sort of theme system
- Language system
I'm probably gonna obfuscate parts of my a new addon I'm working on myself as I don't want people to steal something I made and easily reuse it. MoonDRM obfuscates code too I'd assume (sry Billy if its wrong, its an assumption) I don't see anything wrong with obfuscating if its done right and the entire code aren't obfuscated
Obfuscation is bad because the owner can add Backdoors without us knowing.
We can't Edit/Add any modifications to the Addon
I don't see why someone will Pay for a premium content, if it's Obfuscated and impossible to edit...
Edited And also, a lot of Servers Owners don't add obfuscated scripts to theirs servers.
Because it can contains Backdoors
Edited And if Obfuscation is authorized in ScriptFodder, it's would be better to Mention it before "Buying", because i spent my money on a script that i will never use.
ByKanade ♥ Lobhossat 9th of September 2016 06:23:02
Obfuscation is bad because the owner can add Backdoors without us knowing.We can't Edit/Add any modifications to the AddonI don't see why someone will Pay for a premium content, if it's Obfuscated and impossible to edit...EditedAnd also, a lot of Servers Owners don't add obfuscated scripts to theirs servers.Because it can contains BackdoorsEditedAnd if Obfuscation is authorized in ScriptFodder, it's would be better to Mention it before "Buying", because i spent my money on a script that i will never use.
They can use tricks to add difficult to notice back doors to unobfuscated code as well (not to mention that obfuscating code just makes it harder to understand. It's still reversible). If that's the only argument you have then you may as well stop using 90% of software because it could possibly contain back doors or spyware.
I have faith that the SF mod team (most of whom are developers with several scripts) would be able to spot a backdoor even in obfuscated code (stuff like that generally isn't easy to hide).
Like, I use my own DRM and I could easily include backdoors if I wanted. Every dev with DRM can do this and those without SE can do it without Phoenix rekking your ass.
The concept of "maybe backdoor" aren't new and the only one I can remember off my head that backdoored was El-Gringo and that thing got banned.
Did you even contact the author before this whole fit you started having where you PM'd me (as well as other mods I guarantee), reported the script, posted two threads, and reviewed the script poorly while commenting on it as well?
I'm sure they would have given you a clean version. It's the same with DRMs, we verify the code is good on our end, and if it isn't then it's denied. If you don't like it, request a refund from the author.
The only way a backdoor will get into SF is if the moderator reviewing it is on crack.
I also agree with Pat; addons can be obfuscated as long as it allowed the user to edit things such as GUI colors etc
ByPatat 9th of September 2016 06:52:33
Like, I use my own DRM and I could easily include backdoors if I wanted. Every dev with DRM can do this and those without SE can do it without Phoenix rekking your ass.The concept of "maybe backdoor" aren't new and the only one I can remember off my head that backdoored was El-Gringo and that thing got banned.
Is he talking about DRM or obfuscation?
Yes, every script could be backdoored, but why the fuck would you? You earn money off of it and then you would want to ban everyone? And thanks to drm the script doesn't get leaked easily, and you know it's not so hard to contact the developer to ask add config or something?
ScriptFodder should just provide a DRM system, so they can have access to the code and be sure it isn't backdoored. Or allow the mods to have access to the code on the other DRM sites.
We do not accept obfuscated addons that do not provide us with a way to see the source at all times. This must have been obfuscated afterwards without notifying us.
And no, we will never provide a DRM.
just gonna reply to everything here
ByKanade ♥ Lobhossat 9th of September 2016 05:51:05
What if the addon contains Backdoors ?
then it shall be removed swiftly after it is found and reported
And what if the Author's addon website is Down?
then a backup system should kick in
Yes but how can i Translate the addon?
by using the language system provided. if there isn't one, too bad.
How can i change the VGUI/Text Color??
VGUI and Text Color is clientside, DRM is only on the serverside??
We can't do anything now...
yes u can
And how can i know if the author didn't added a backdoor on it?
you don't, maybe you should trust developers more and stop thinking we're just here to fucking attack you and your server we don't care about
ByPatat 9th of September 2016 06:02:51
MoonDRM obfuscates code too I'd assume (sry Billy if its wrong, its an assumption)
yeah you're right
ByMarcuzat 9th of September 2016 14:28:21
And no, we will never provide a DRM.
g m o d s t o r e
Why not just "Forbid Obfuscated Addons" ?
That's the key to all the problems we're having..
ByKanade ♥ Lobhossat 9th of September 2016 16:32:24
Why not just "Forbid Obfuscated Addons" ?That's the key to all the problems we're having..
By nulls
no. this'll just make it easier for skids to leak scripts.
also are you talking about obfuscation or DRM? The more I read your posts the more it sounds like you're talking about DRM.
ByKanade ♥ Lobhossat 9th of September 2016 16:32:24
Why not just "Forbid Obfuscated Addons" ?That's the key to all the problems we're having..
then please tell me the key to all the problems I'M having with French fucks leaking my scripts?