Help with choosing a provider
Bydrizzy.vipat 14th of June 2016 09:27:12
I'm trying to work out whats going on. I don't understand why its all so hush hush if they're actually doing what they say. But I think you're right - they don't use Hydra, I just saw Voxility and bandwidth and made an assumption as they're the same providers Hydra use.
As previously mentioned, I cannot fill in the missing information you are seeming to want. It wouldn't hurt to drop in a ticket to them I guess. I am just a happy customer with the service and hardware I am getting so I am just putting in a friendly vouch as well as got friends within the company so I guess I am part biased.
Going to leave it at this now I guess, if you want to discuss anything with my further then I guess PM is the way to go, don't want to be flooding this even more with posts (although someone is bound to pop their nose in for some drama).
Bydrizzy.vipat 14th of June 2016 09:27:12
I'm trying to work out whats going on. I don't understand why its all so hush hush if they're actually doing what they say. But I think you're right - they don't use Hydra, I just saw Voxility and bandwidth and made an assumption as they're the same providers Hydra use.
We do indeed directly use Bandwidth Technologies, we don't resell from Hydra however. Also, as you mentioned Voxility's filters only kick in once at least 40-60Mbps comes in, however we have systems put in place to trigger this much lower and we also run our own Layer 7 (or small UDP floods) filtering lower down.
Voxility usually takes care of Query attacks, but have seen a few get through in the past. When this happens, we generally deal with it ourselves. There is also the possibility of Always-On mode, but we are still in contact with Voxility to fix a few things up before we do this on all services.
ByMrkrabzat 14th of June 2016 11:13:31
Voxility usually takes care of Query attacks, but have seen a few get through in the past. When this happens, we generally deal with it ourselves. There is also the possibility of Always-On mode, but we are still in contact with Voxility to fix a few things up before we do this on all services.
Whenever their filters are on you can feel it honestly. Hydra got them to push a massive update to the source profiles a while back, but everything with voxility just slowly slips into a fuckfest until it gets so bad they need to fix it again, and its perfect for another few months.
As for the query attacks, you're pretty damn sure when you hit a server behind Voxility and their filters trigger, it'll stop the server showing to more than 50% of people due to the fact they rate limit A2S to the Steam master servers -.-
There are still purpose built attack methods that can down Voxility though, so its just a good attempt at something impossible with them. Almost all of the issues my clients have now-a-days are caused because of Voxility :/
Bydrizzy.vipat 14th of June 2016 11:45:18
Whenever their filters are on you can feel it honestly. Hydra got them to push a massive update to the source profiles a while back, but everything with voxility just slowly slips into a fuckfest until it gets so bad theyneedto fix it again, and its perfect for another few months.As for the query attacks, you're pretty damn sure when you hit a server behind Voxility and their filters trigger, it'll stop the server showing to more than 50% of people due to the fact they rate limit A2S to the Steam master servers -.-There are still purpose built attack methods that can down Voxility though, so its just a good attempt at something impossible with them. Almost all of the issues my clients have now-a-days are caused because of Voxility :/
We have seen a handful of issues with Voxility (mainly with Rust), but they have usually been fixed within 24 hours, I've yet to see any major issues with them yet however.
Regarding A2S attacks, unless they peak above 80Mbps or so Voxility won't interfere with our own mitigation. As for the attacks that can "down" Voxility, I'm unsure where you are going with that.
TCP based attacks are pretty easy to mitigate due to all of the Game Servers only using UDP (bar RCON). I've seen some 80Gbps+ attacks in the last week against us that Voxility seemed to stand up against decently, there were a few hiccups but there was no down-time caused from it.
Saying that, I've seen claimed methods that can down OVH and many other providers, but we have yet to have any issues with that. It's an on-going battle and filters get updated as bad stuff happens.